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Episode 86 (32 minutes) was recorded at 2200 Central European Time, on August 2, 2024, with Alitu Recorder. Martin did the editing and post-production with the podcast maker, Alitu. The transcript is generated by Alitu.

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Transcript
Blair:

All right, ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon, or good evening, and welcome to the



Blair:

secular foxhole.



Blair:

Today it's Martin and I, and we're just going



Blair:

to go over some things that we picked out that we wanted to discuss, and we'll have some



Blair:

Olympic discussion and some objectivist discussion and a few other news items of what



Blair:

we think are of note.



Martin:

Yep.



Blair:

And how are you, Martin?



Martin:

I'm fine.



Martin:

And like you could say, label of description



Martin:

on ingredients is that we have two formats of this podcast.



Martin:

The main thing that we really enjoy and like is the guests that are adding value and



Martin:

research, and then we have interview them or having conversation or a mix of that and so



Martin:

on.



Martin:

And we will add that also maybe extra



Martin:

material, what we learn from that.



Martin:

But we let the guests talk and take the stage.



Martin:

When it's Blair and myself, we have so called do show, and then it could be some chitchat.



Martin:

Hopefully we have some value and content, and we have the thing that called new sandwich,



Martin:

the idea that we got from Amy Peacock that like the sandwich a good thing, something in



Martin:

the middle that is not, maybe not so good, and then ending on good thing.



Martin:

But sometimes we have only good things.



Martin:

Sometimes I not a good thing and sometimes a



Martin:

mix of strings.



Martin:

And you have that right now.



Martin:

You have digged up some news items here.



Blair:

Yes, I have.



Blair:

And they're.



Blair:

They're mostly good.



Martin:

Good to hear.



Martin:

We need that.



Blair:

And there's some very good things.



Blair:

And then mostly good.



Martin:

Yeah.



Blair:

So. But I can.



Blair:

I can start those off if you like.



Martin:

Yeah, please.



Blair:

There's.



Blair:

I just recently watched two great YouTube



Blair:

videos, both from the Ayn Rand Institute.



Blair:

The first one is called the secular moral



Blair:

alternative to Dawkins and Iann Hersey Ali.



Blair:

And this was about a 40 Minutes show narrated



Blair:

by Ben Baer, who's consistently doing outstanding work, in my personal opinion.



Blair:

And he dissects, if you will, the recent debate that Richard Dawkins and Miss Ali had.



Blair:

I guess it was in New York.



Blair:

And I do want to point out, Miss Ali recently



Blair:

converted to Christianity after being an outspoken atheist for many, perhaps over a



Blair:

decade, and had a courageous stand against Islam.



Blair:

But again, she recently converted to Christianity.



Blair:

And this alleged, I don't know if it was a debate more or less.



Blair:

It was more or less a discussion between Dawkins, the narrator, and mass Ali.



Blair:

But again, Ben comes at it from an objectivist point of view, and it's very enlightening.



Blair:

So I highly recommend that YouTube video called the secular moral alternative to



Blair:

Dawkins and Ian Hirsi Ali, which of course, means objectivism.



Blair:

And then the other video, this was, I think a recent certainly happened this year.



Blair:

I think it was in Europe, actually.



Blair:

Ankar Gate gave a speech called objectivists



Blair:

wanted why we need more objectivists, and not just philosophers, teachers, lawyers,



Blair:

whatever, but just in general.



Blair:

And it was very uplifting to me.



Blair:

Objectivism, frankly, is worth people taking a look at it.



Blair:

I know what I. I was basically an aimless, drifting 20 something year old when I was



Blair:

introduced to the fountainhead.



Blair:

And just.



Blair:

It changed my life for the better, I'm telling you.



Blair:

It was quite an eye opening and a great experience, something I really, really, really



Blair:

needed to focus my life and to better my life.



Blair:

And so that talk is very, very good.



Blair:

It's just over an hour.



Blair:

And that was.



Blair:

So that was.



Blair:

I recommend both of those YouTube videos from



Blair:

the Ayn Rand Institute.



Martin:

And I have a point there.



Martin:

Go ahead.



Martin:

Yeah.



Martin:

Because we now talked about the different holy



Martin:

scriptures and how you study.



Martin:

You could study in a way, and you could be a



Martin:

student of objectivism and Rand's philosophy.



Martin:

And then it's to apply it also to your life.



Blair:

Exactly.



Martin:

And your profession and your hobbies, your passion, your interests, what not.



Martin:

And because it's a. Pat ran said it's a philosophy here on earth.



Martin:

Something like that.



Martin:

Right.



Blair:

For here.



Blair:

For living.



Martin:

For here.



Martin:

Yeah.



Blair:

For living on earth.



Martin:

So that's something to think about.



Martin:

And then I came as also news, you could say



Martin:

now you could have the artificial intelligence and robots.



Martin:

I know that Amy Peekov had a Twitter account called Randrobot or something like that.



Martin:

Yeah, Randbot.



Martin:

Yeah.



Martin:

And now it's built on something from Delphi AI.



Martin:

I think we will include that in the show notes, both Rand and also Aristotle.



Martin:

And that was pretty fascinating to write.



Martin:

Something I wrote.



Martin:

Which book or work should I start with? Or could you start with.



Martin:

And then it was in her voice.



Blair:

Pretty close to her voice, I think.



Martin:

Yeah. And what we recommended, either it was something from a lecture or it was



Martin:

somewhere it's coming from.



Martin:

And I thought that was really neat.



Martin:

But then it said from the gecko that you should go to the source, read Rand's work, and



Martin:

listen to courses and interviews and whatnot.



Martin:

But this is really interesting, because you



Martin:

could then use AI in a positive and productive and rational way.



Martin:

So I was impressed.



Martin:

And I will look into this Aristotle thing,



Martin:

because if you are not a scholar or not, that's your career.



Martin:

You could learn something from that also.



Martin:

So, yeah, I thought that was a night.



Blair:

I really appreciated that link to the Aristotle page, because yeah, I asked it.



Martin:

And we could do also something.



Martin:

I interrupt you, Blair, but what Rad has said,



Martin:

has she said Thomas Aquinas? Is he.



Blair:

Aquinas? Yeah.



Martin:

Aquinas. Yeah. Is he like a full philosopher or she, she never mentioned



Martin:

somebody that she say good, good enough.



Martin:

But like a half or something like that.



Blair:

Right.



Blair:

He was only half.



Blair:

Right.



Blair:

Now I put it.



Martin:

Anyway, he tried to, you know, he tried to use reason to prove God by logic, so.



Blair:

Yeah. And it's not possible.



Martin:

Yeah. Good luck with that.



Martin:

But you have to then understand the historical



Martin:

context.



Blair:

True, true.



Blair:

But again, that half that effort back in the,



Blair:

in the dark ages, if you will, at the end of the dark ages, laid the groundwork for the



Blair:

Renaissance.



Martin:

Yep.



Blair:

And the rediscovery of Aristotle and I, again, I think we're in the death throes of



Blair:

the end of the kantian age.



Blair:

Now, how long that's going to take a, it may



Blair:

take, it may take decades, it may take six months.



Martin:

Again, it's now interrupt you again.



Martin:

But it's good that you interrupt you because



Martin:

there we could then invite guests that are real expert and find value and interest and



Martin:

passion and time and energy to dive into that.



Blair:

Yeah.



Martin:

That's how you and I, we probably have some.



Martin:

Yeah, we know that.



Martin:

Okay.



Martin:

How many generations? And then you have to again, see the context



Martin:

did Kant has lot, had lot of competition, so to speak.



Martin:

And how did it spread like Aristotle's ideas that again, over again, I come back to that



Martin:

book, the Aristotle Adventure.



Blair:

Yeah. It was a wonderful book.



Blair:

Yes.



Martin:

By how his ideas survived and moved forward and ended up in all kind of different



Martin:

places again.



Martin:

I think it's interesting.



Martin:

I hope so also that can't era is over, then the question is what will come instead?



Blair:

Right, right.



Blair:

And that's not looking too good either.



Martin:

We should try to see positive.



Martin:

And I see several positive signs also.



Blair:

Absolutely.



Blair:

There's no question that.



Martin:

And you had something that sort of mixed.



Martin:

It was like a rock musician, right?



Blair:

Yes. Yeah. This Breitbart reported that Morrissey, in a recent concert, he accused



Blair:

doctor Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates and the World Economic Forum head Klaus Schwab, or Klaus



Blair:

Schwab of being criminals and was tied to a song.



Blair:

Let me see if I can find the song.



Blair:

Let me see.



Blair:

Where is that? Here we go.



Blair:

All right, let's see.



Blair:

He was singing a song called the World is full



Blair:

of crashing boars.



Martin:

Yeah.



Blair:

And he had those three faces rotating on a screen behind him.



Martin:

Yeah. We will not play the song because then it's you know, it writes, but we



Martin:

have the value for value there.



Martin:

But in the future, musicians could get



Martin:

something for that.



Blair:

True.



Martin:

But it's also interesting if this satirical thing or a parody or freedom of



Martin:

expression, if that's okay.



Martin:

I recently saw, like Boss Fostwin had



Martin:

comments, some political commentary about, you know, the political race now.



Martin:

And these images was removed by Instagram.



Blair:

Really?



Martin:

Yeah. So something to think about.



Martin:

Of course, they are private company.



Martin:

They could do whatever they want in a way.



Martin:

But it's interesting how this is coming.



Martin:

Push to show.



Martin:

Or how do you say push to show?



Blair:

Yeah.



Martin:

So it will be interesting in a way, autumn, and see what's, what's happening.



Martin:

I mean, really, it's taking from like a Hollywood movie.



Martin:

You could say everything what's going on right now, right?



Martin:

Yes, but it's good.



Martin:

But musicians like rock and roll and others



Martin:

are really coming out and saying something like that also, so.



Blair:

Yeah, that's true.



Blair:

But those were the three items I wanted to



Blair:

highlight today.



Blair:

Good.



Blair:

Go ahead.



Blair:

You've got some good news around, so go for



Blair:

it.



Martin:

And we talked a little about that in green room.



Martin:

And we will get to the content and we hopefully got to the content.



Martin:

But some time ago, I searched for our own podcast, and I recommend that as a new media



Martin:

advisor to do that.



Martin:

And then I found on October, we'll see here.



Martin:

It was 1823 and it was a review of our episode 72 by Dave Jackson on a podcast rodeo show or



Martin:

something like that.



Martin:

I think now it's called hot seat and you pay



Martin:

for the reviews.



Martin:

But we didn't ask for a review.



Martin:

But we thank and give hat tips to pod fans.



Martin:

Now it's called true fans.



Martin:

So Sam Seti, I think he got that input or something, came into his, you could say,



Martin:

stream recommendation to review this.



Martin:

So it was interesting and I took some notes



Martin:

and we will learn from that and get to the content and explain in the show notes and the



Martin:

subject line and titles what the show is all about.



Martin:

That said, it's also our show, so we could have chit chat and some back and forth.



Martin:

Also, I will include that in show notes.



Martin:

So please listen to that review and see what



Martin:

you think about it.



Blair:

I will.



Blair:

Of course I will.



Martin:

And also our listeners, for example, he said something about the bumper and what



Martin:

you could have and also planning, and we do some planning and we have some document to



Martin:

prepare.



Martin:

And also then that this is, as I said, is a



Martin:

duo show.



Martin:

And then we have guests.



Martin:

It's more a conversation and focused on the guest.



Martin:

So, yeah, so I thought that and then congratulations to Dave for getting a gig here



Martin:

on pod page.



Martin:

And we are using that.



Martin:

You bought that service?



Blair:

Yes. Page I.



Martin:

So we have that site where the secularfoxhole dot live, right?



Blair:

Yes.



Martin:

And we will do more about that.



Martin:

I commented a little bit about different



Martin:

badges and these new modern podcast apps because we will promote that more and more.



Martin:

The listener decides how the listener wants to listen, but we want to promote new modern



Martin:

podcast apps so we could adding this value for value model into the system.



Martin:

So I think that was that and what more? Yeah.



Martin:

Do you want to hear some stats? Stats and.



Martin:

Yeah.



Martin:

Stats?



Blair:

What stats? Absolutely.



Blair:

I like our stats.



Martin:

Yeah. And I must say we had a record month and this is also to explain to the



Martin:

listeners if I value this and what we are doing, especially with the guests.



Martin:

Again, I want to onboard all our guests.



Martin:

It's like 30 individuals, so they could get a



Martin:

split office for the future.



Martin:

But we had 300 downloads last month.



Blair:

Nice.



Martin:

And I often say we have around seven listeners per day.



Martin:

So now that's more than that latest month.



Martin:

And unique listeners, about 150.



Martin:

So maybe every individual listened like twice on the same episode, on other episodes or



Martin:

several episodes or parts of episodes and whatnot.



Martin:

And with true fans.



Martin:

As a side note, I had a conversation with Sam



Martin:

Sativara there.



Martin:

We could see lots of interesting features in



Martin:

future with data and statistics and.



Martin:

Yeah, so that could really be interesting for



Martin:

podcasters, for listeners, for everyone involved in this so called industry and



Martin:

category of programming.



Martin:

Great.



Martin:

And so in total we have ten k. 10,000 downloads and listeners in total since we



Martin:

started.



Martin:

Around 5000 individual unique listeners.



Blair:

That's great.



Martin:

Then I have the commentary.



Martin:

You have to take it a bit of grain of salt



Martin:

because you could do different things.



Martin:

And I have a list of countries here and then I



Martin:

will have a thought about that.



Martin:

What did you say, Blair?



Blair:

I was going to say that's 10,000 since our inception four years ago, right?



Martin:

Yeah.



Blair:

Well, I think that's pretty good.



Martin:

I think so.



Martin:

For the so called niche podcast.



Blair:

Yep, niche is correct.



Martin:

Yeah. So, but interesting with the stats also we want listeners to look at the



Martin:

opportunity to have a new modern podcast app.



Martin:

But also as true fans is a progressive web



Martin:

app.



Martin:

And there, so you could use it in your regular



Martin:

web browser and on the phone and it will apply accordingly.



Martin:

So you don't have to download an app, but most of the listeners are listening to desktop



Martin:

browser and Chrome, for example.



Blair:

Right.



Martin:

So if we could get listeners to look into true fans and you could then sign up for



Martin:

free and then you could get gamification and you could get satoshis that you could use to



Martin:

us or to themselves or some other podcasters.



Martin:

So to get into this system and thinking so I



Martin:

see great potential here with true fans and that's the trader principle.



Martin:

If we get new users to true fans and listeners and guests and they will get Satoshis, then if



Martin:

they want they could have this tray the principle and say, oh, it was worth to be as a



Martin:

guest or your content or your value, your information.



Martin:

Yeah, but it will take some time, right?



Blair:

Yes.



Martin:

And then I'm thinking of adding something, a captivated feature called Amy.



Martin:

Like I think it's standing for automatic insertion message or something like that.



Martin:

Often it's for advertising and we don't have, you know, our podcast is not suitable for ads.



Martin:

We're not big like that and we don't want to have interruption to have commercial breaks in



Martin:

that way.



Martin:

But we could have a call to action and then we



Martin:

could change it over time.



Martin:

So I will play around with that.



Martin:

Sounds good, more clear.



Martin:

And also we could have something what this



Martin:

show is about and so on.



Martin:

And we have to think about that now when I'm



Martin:

talking to maybe update our so called trailer because that's long time ago now and pretty



Martin:

long and maybe we have to do it more spiffy.



Martin:

I don't know.



Martin:

But still I standing for that first recording, the first trail and first episode got us



Martin:

going.



Martin:

Blair.



Blair:

Yes, that's a long time ago now.



Blair:

Yeah.



Martin:

So with that said, the latest month here on countries is United States as usual,



Martin:

like still over 50%.



Martin:

But then the next one is China, 20%.



Martin:

So do you think, do we have any objectivists and some others are in China that listen to us



Martin:

or could it be to Hong Kong or I, because that I haven't seen before.



Blair:

I would assume it's Hong Kong to be honest.



Martin:

Yeah, that's great.



Martin:

And that's really great that we could listen



Martin:

from that.



Martin:

And then the third one is other.



Martin:

So I wonder if that's VPN.



Martin:

And of course if you have privacy, if you



Martin:

don't want to show we can't know and that we shouldn't and we don't want to an individual



Martin:

listener, we can't have go by name that somebody.



Blair:

Well that's true.



Blair:

Yeah.



Martin:

But if of course if they send a booster gram and say their name, then we'll do



Martin:

a shout out to them.



Martin:

So in a way that you could have this VPN and



Martin:

privacy and say no other country.



Martin:

But on the other hand we think it's fun to see



Martin:

different countries.



Martin:

So that was the third one.



Martin:

So somebody out there or several have started using VPN or some country that maybe it's the.



Martin:

To joke.



Martin:

Maybe it's the Lieberland or seastead country.



Blair:

Oh, maybe something like that.



Martin:

To joke.



Martin:

Yeah. And then Canada and then Sweden for some



Martin:

reason.



Martin:

United Kingdom, Portugal and the Netherlands,



Martin:

Australia and Belgium.



Martin:

That was.



Blair:

I like that.



Blair:

I like that.



Blair:

I love Australia.



Blair:

I'm getting old, but one of my bucket list



Blair:

dreams is to go to Australia.



Martin:

Yeah. When you could meet one of great podcasters out there, James Kridland.



Martin:

And he's all over the place traveling, but he has pod news podcast and also with Sam Setty,



Martin:

they have a show there.



Martin:

So Orino from Australia and you know Karen



Martin:

down.



Martin:

Yes, I remember that great review of our



Martin:

podcast.



Martin:

He has recently been in Brazil, and now he was



Martin:

in Nashville to this bitcoin conference.



Martin:

And especially this value for, value for



Martin:

musicians that they did close to this conference.



Martin:

So he went there.



Martin:

Yeah, Nashville.



Martin:

And do you listen to lots of country music there?



Blair:

I have termed myself a chronic channel changer on the radio.



Martin:

Yeah.



Blair:

So I listen to everything.



Blair:

Yeah.



Blair:

But I also, I have serious radio, which I do tend to not change so much.



Blair:

I have, I love eighties music.



Martin:

Yeah.



Blair:

Sixties music.



Blair:

So those two decades, and then my, the



Blair:

National Football League channel on Sirius radio, and then one or two others, some



Blair:

others, there's a prime country and so on and so forth.



Blair:

But those four or five stations are worth the $6.50 a month I pay for a serious radio.



Martin:

Okay. And where we talk about value, value for value again, in a way.



Martin:

And it's interesting to see how the all time radio, how they are doing it.



Martin:

And you have this national public radio and you have commercial stations, and it will be



Martin:

interesting to follow what was going on here.



Martin:

So.



Blair:

Yeah, true, true.



Martin:

And then we talked about the randbot, as I said, and we have to in the future talk



Martin:

about what's happening in Venezuela and also what happened recently in Iran and Lebanon.



Blair:

Aha. Yes, that's right.



Martin:

Really interesting development, so to speak.



Martin:

And the Olympics.



Martin:

I will only say that some Christians, I think,



Martin:

mostly got upset that they had, I got upset for another way because it was so called a



Martin:

parody of a great work of art, you know, the last Supper.



Martin:

But again, they could do it if they want.



Martin:

But it was.



Martin:

Yeah.



Martin:

So it was a bit political, correct.



Martin:

It was maybe not good taste, but the uproar by Christians about this, I have some issues with



Martin:

also.



Martin:

And overall, we should celebrate athletic, you



Martin:

know, wins and development and.



Martin:

Yeah, all things going on, the only.



Blair:

Reason I watch the Olympics is to hero worship.



Martin:

Good. Yeah, and we talked about that in the green room about table tennis, ping



Martin:

pong and other.



Blair:

I'm a swimming and gymnastics freak.



Martin:

At.



Blair:

Least in the Summer Olympics.



Martin:

Yeah. So we will probably come back to that.



Martin:

And now I see we have talked to a little bit, but we have some important, you could say news



Martin:

and development.



Martin:

And I'm really running with scissors here.



Martin:

I have set up with help of an objectivist, or interested in objectivism and rans philosophy



Martin:

Tolmec in Poland.



Martin:

So he helped me with onboarding to get my own



Martin:

hub or node on Albie.



Martin:

So it's hard for me to explain what really is.



Martin:

But I bought by my fiat currency, bought 80,000 satoshis, and that's around 500 swedish



Martin:

crowns or $50.



Martin:

And then I set up this.



Martin:

They recommended to have around 250,000 in order to have liquidity and be able to receive



Martin:

and send.



Martin:

Because it's like channel, it's like open bank



Martin:

system, you could say, in a decentralized financial way.



Blair:

Yes, that's about all.



Martin:

I am amazing and I am not the tech guy and I running with scissors, maybe I will



Martin:

break things.



Martin:

Of course, if I lose the satoshis, that's one



Martin:

thing.



Martin:

But it's interesting, if more individuals like



Martin:

me, that not technical will do this over time, that will be very interesting impact.



Blair:

Yes.



Martin:

And that's again why I say that it was so great to have a real expert like Dave.



Martin:

Or is it David Dave? Yeah, on the show explaining what is really



Martin:

bitcoin and cryptocurrency and how you protect it and what we should stand up for and



Martin:

etcetera.



Martin:

So I got that.



Martin:

So right now I have like 15,000 satouches in receiving capacity.



Martin:

And that's meaning if somebody will send us a donation of 15,000, I could receive it, but



Martin:

it's more than that.



Martin:

Then there will be problem in the channel.



Martin:

So that's something to think.



Martin:

That's why we recommended to have 250,000



Martin:

satoshis.



Martin:

But at this day, age or time, it's around 1500



Martin:

swedish crowns or $150.



Martin:

To get that, of course you own them and you



Martin:

keep them, but then you spread this out in these different channels.



Martin:

So you could have receiving and incoming.



Martin:

So now I have been spending off the 80,000 I



Martin:

have been spending, and then they are going to this receiving capacity.



Martin:

So for 80,000 approximately now I have 65 of spending.



Martin:

So I have spent around 15,000 you know, so I will be able to receive 15.



Martin:

Do you see what I'm saying? So it's like a channel, like a balance.



Martin:

And I'm already lost in explaining it.



Martin:

But that's why we should have guests on the



Martin:

show.



Blair:

I'll have David try to get David back so he can teach you.



Martin:

So in order to really get this going, I have to open a new channel.



Martin:

But then I have to get some satoshis in order to do that because I don't have extra laying



Martin:

around 1500 swedish crowns or $150 for this.



Martin:

So I'm already out of my league.



Martin:

But it was fun to test.



Martin:

And you now, acquaintance and a person, an



Martin:

individual that's interested in Rand's ideas by chance and also explaining this, what they



Martin:

are doing at Albie.



Martin:

It's really fascinating.



Martin:

So I'm happy to be alive in this day of age.



Blair:

That's true.



Blair:

I mean, regardless of all the negative



Blair:

negativity.



Blair:

Again, if we go to humanprogress.org, that



Blair:

will boost everyone's spirits, if you will.



Martin:

And you can.



Martin:

That's good.



Martin:

So maybe get somebody there from.



Martin:

And also roots of progress also.



Blair:

That's. Yes, Jason Crawford.



Blair:

Yeah, that's become an institute now.



Blair:

Yeah, that's right.



Blair:

I think we mentioned that on the last show.



Martin:

Yeah. So a case in point here now.



Martin:

And I now I'm babbling a bit, but we'll see



Martin:

here how we are doing.



Martin:

Yeah, around a half an hour.



Martin:

So 221905 satoshis.



Martin:

And you know what that is?



Blair:

I do, I sign Ren's birthday.



Martin:

Yeah. So that's a booster grant that I've added to the GitHub page.



Martin:

The numerology page.



Blair:

Yes.



Martin:

So when I back in the now it's around 1500 swedish crowns for $150.



Martin:

Some years ago when we did.



Martin:

When I did this, it was around 500 swedish



Martin:

crowns or $50.



Martin:

So my question is, what happened with the



Martin:

value of bitcoin and the so called value of the fiat currency?



Martin:

So that's something to think about and introspect and.



Martin:

Yeah, maybe again have an expert on explaining what's going on.



Blair:

Yeah. Okay. I'll do my best to get somebody.



Martin:

Yeah. Thanks again, Tomik to help me onboarding on Albi and also to meet the new



Martin:

objectivist.



Martin:

Objectivist and interest in Rand's ideas and



Martin:

apply it.



Martin:

Really.



Martin:

And so that's great.



Martin:

So true.



Martin:

Fans has an ending.



Martin:

Sam said he's doing new features all the time



Martin:

and I had a call with him and we are really getting close to so called top up your wallet



Martin:

with fiat currency or any credit card.



Martin:

So you could start playing around with this



Martin:

and start getting into it.



Martin:

So that's great because then it will be easier



Martin:

for us to onboarding our guests and listeners and others.



Martin:

So this will go around back and forth as a trader principle and then also adding the



Martin:

split.



Martin:

So I will do that.



Martin:

So really interesting developments here.



Martin:

And Sam is doing a great job.



Martin:

And we talked also about that he will be a future guest on a specific topic when it comes



Martin:

to podcasting and conferences and whatnot.



Martin:

And then I wanted to talk in the future that



Martin:

we should think about getting a new podcast artwork.



Martin:

And I think we should find some fine artists out there.



Martin:

What we have had on our show, and also I have had on my show ego netkost.



Martin:

But for that, because we value their work and we know that they want to get paid for that.



Martin:

We have to find some campaign or whatnot and so on.



Martin:

But we were very open and transparent about that because I think the artwork, I like it as



Martin:

it is, but I think it's time to get to the next level, so to speak.



Blair:

Yeah, well, the original was my crew drawing, so to speak, that was enhanced.



Martin:

Yeah. But it's been working fine, Blair.



Martin:

Yes, and that again with free market.



Martin:

I got it from fiverr with somebody, I think it



Martin:

was in Indonesia or some other place doing it.



Blair:

Yes.



Martin:

They put their terms and settings and what you could ask for and how quick they



Martin:

could do it.



Martin:

And I'm totally happy with that.



Martin:

Yes, I can do it myself.



Martin:

But now as an ending with like AI, I am now



Martin:

subscribed to service that is simple to use this chat, DBT and Dali and this image



Martin:

creator.



Martin:

So I'm really into this now to see what I



Martin:

could play around with like podcast artwork maybe for your blog post, doing image features



Martin:

image, a photo on a blog post and other things like that.



Martin:

Because if you don't have that skill or artistic, you know, it's hard.



Martin:

And that's in a way good because then you could find division of liber, but it's also



Martin:

good.



Martin:

But we could play around with it.



Blair:

Yeah, yeah.



Martin:

So and also to as you, we talked about music, you wanted to have up more upbeat.



Martin:

Yeah, we have like it very much.



Martin:

I like it.



Martin:

I'm really getting in the mood when I listen to the bumper and jingle and hopefully the



Martin:

listeners doing that also.



Martin:

But we are thinking of a new song there.



Martin:

And I will talk to Jim Johnson of J Tunes Productions if he opt for it.



Martin:

And then I want to add him to the split also.



Martin:

So every time somebody is listening with a new



Martin:

podcast app streaming satoshis or sending a booster gram, he will get a split and a cut



Martin:

off also.



Blair:

Yeah. Thats great.



Blair:

Yes.



Martin:

So thats for now, I think.



Martin:

Any ending note, Blaire?



Blair:

No. Everyone stay cool in this hot summer and enjoy the Olympics.



Blair:

And hopefully we'll have a guest on our next episode.



Martin:

Yeah. So with that, thank you very much, Blair, and talk to you soon again, thank



Martin:

you, Martin.



Blair:

Appreciate it.



Martin:

Bye bye bye.



Blair:

Satan rain.